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thanks so much for being with us today. we're going to hand you over to newsroom with carol costello. >> we have a lot to talk about, thanks so much. "newsroom" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good morning, i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. welcome to a special edition of "newsroom." cnn is not reporting the name of the officer who shot michael brown until we can confirm the identity of the officer who fired the shots. protesters taking to the streets for a fourth straight night objecting to what they call the unprovoked shooting of
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18-year-old michael brown by this unnamed police officer so far. this is what it looked like last night. it appears to be relatively peaceful crowds have w police officers about a block away but the town changes in a heartbeat. >> a city block and a half. they are now firing onto the crowd. >> officers launched tear gas canisters and possibly rubber bullets into the crowd. we'll play more of this amazing tape for you in a few minutes but first, some other developments that we're following this morning. missouri governor jay nixon is headed to ferguson today. nixon called the situation "deeply troubling" and asked law enforcement to respect the rights of residents and the press. it has been a rough reception for several media outlets in the last few hours. this is an al jazeera news crew, a tear gas canister erupting in front of them forcing them to run. short time later police officers
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taking down their lights and pointing their cameras toward the ground. couple of print journalists didn't have it any easier either. you'll see video from one of two reporters, one from "the washington post" and another one from "the huffington post" both ta eninto police custody last night after they were informed they were trespassing at a local mcdonald's, both released after about 45 minutes, no charges filed. also a new eyewitness coming forward telling cnn about the moment michael brown was shot. >> when his body jerked, he turns around facing the cop and he put his hands in the air and that's when the cop continued to come up on him and shoot him and so he fell down to the ground. >> i want to bring in cnn's ana cabrera now. you're in ferguson. we've seen four nights of protests now. things seem to be spiraling out of control. what are you seeing? >> well certainly things are not getting any better here in
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ferguson, missouri, carol. the emotions still very high. they've continued to boil over. you mentioned 18 people were arrested overnight, two police officers reportedly injured. i just talked to a man who walked out of the jail, an alderman here in the st. louis area and he talked a little bit about what led up to the unrest last night. we'll hear from him in a minute, but first, i want to walk you through exactly what happened. overnight, ferguson erupted, perhaps the most chaotic protests and police response yet. angry crowds throwing bottles at law enforcement and police firing tear gas and flash bangs to disperse them. a tv news crew on the scene runs for cover after a tear gas canister lands directly in front of them. >> there it is, they're firing onto the crowd. ouch! [ bleep ]
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they're firing rubber bullets. >> reporter: dramatic video shot by a reporter on the ground captures utter chaos. police advance on the protesters, sending them running in fear. >> stop throwing stuff at them! >> reporter: as officers fire rubber bullets and smoke grenades in this residential neighborhood. at least 18 arrested overnight, including two journaliests, detained while police attempted to clear out a local mcdonald's. the altercation caught on camera. >> let's go. no time to ask questions. let's go. >> reporter: new cell phone video from just after brown was killed capturing the heartbreaking moment when a man believed to be brown's uncle rushes to his lifeless body and is immediately pushed away by police. the witness who captured this video said she saw the shooting unfold telling cnn's don lemon exclusively the details of what she witnessed. >> what i saw was when the cop and michael were like wrestling through the window, it looked as if michael was pushing off and the cop was trying to pull him
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in, then the cop shot a fire through the window. michael breaks away and he starts running away from the officer, the officer gets out of his vehicle and pursues michael as he's shooting his weapon. michael jerks his body as if he's hit, turns around, faces the officer puts his hands up and the officer continues to shoot him until he goes down to the ground. >> reporter: another eyewitness describes how the officer repeatedly shot brown, who was unarmed. >> he was trying to get away from him. why did he continue to shoot at him. >> exactly. >> i still don't get that part at all, like why was he killed trying to get away from the officer. >> and even when he turned around and put his arms in the air he was overkilled, shot multiple times. >> reporter: multiple witnesses tell a similar story, while police maintain brown assaulted the officer in his car and tried to take his weapon. >> officer involved shooting out of ferguson, 2190 just said they had more shots fired in the area. >> reporter: the police chief now says the officer suffered injuries to his face during the
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altercation and was taken to a local hospital. >> he's very shaken about what happened that day, and the aftermath. >> hey, hey, ho, ho, these cops have got to go! >> reporter: earlier police asked all protests held in the day tame but wednesday night's protest continued as scheduled, police responded with force. >> they're firing onto the crowd. ouch! >> reporter: again, i just spoke with alderman antonio french, he's from st. louis. he has been on the scene night after night, recording what's happening out there on the ground, these protests where we continue to see the clashes with police. he tells me and insists that what happened last night was unprovoked by the protesters. he says that police were the first to use force, that they fired the tear gas in some of the flash bang rounds upon nightfall, around 9:00 he said,
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just because the protesters refused to move, but he said the protesters were peaceful up until that point, and then responded to that police action. he says he was arrested from his car because he was shooting video and wasn't "listening" to police officers. this is some of the reason as we hear these different accounts. i'm sure police will tell us a different story and we're continuing to ask them questions about what they say happened, but he's saying these are reasons why there are these two sides that can't seem to meet somewhere in the middle, and he says until there is a better open dialogue, more communication, this situation could continue to escalate. carol? >> all right, ana cabrera, i'll let you get back to your work. we'll bring you back in the next hour of "newsroom." thanks so much. the big question, was this massive police presence necessary or did it just enflame an already tense situation in look at the scene again from last night.
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>> there is goes, they are now firing onto the crowd. ouch! [ bleep ] they are firing rubber bullets. [ bleep ]. >> stop throwing stuff at them! [ bleep ]. >> that's right! [ bleep ]. >> i got the same roman candles. [ bleep ]. >> we will continue to record this. >> on the right. >> news channel 4 running, they're attacking reporters, they are attacking civilians. they are firing upon the media. they are continuing to advance down the street. >> did you hear him? he said "they are attacking civilians." the situation in ferguson being
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compared by at least one blog site to iraq. check out today's front page of "the huffington post." i want to bring in lieutenant general russell honore, and mike brooks and legal analyst joey jackson. >> thanks, carol, good morning. >> good morning. >> michael, was this level of police response necessary? >> it depends on again who threw, was there rocks being thrown? they said there were rocks and molotov cocktails. i didn't personally in all the video i've seen coming in to cnn see any molotov cocktails. it was otherwise if -- if there were being thrown rocks and bottles and molotov cocktails then they had to respond in-kind but they have to make sure that they have a good command and control incident commander there on the scene. we heard chief tom jackson from ferguson police department during a presser say that each night there is an incident
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commander there, but you've got a number of different law enforcement agencies there, but ultimately it comes back on chief jackson. if i were he, if i were chief jackson this morning i'd get my incident commanders together saying look, folks, you need to use common sense. if you're not being fired upon, do not fire tear gas, do not use flash grenades do, not use triple chasers, all of these things if there is no civil disobedience. >> joey, the police seem to not be in total control of the situation. look what anonymous just did, released the name of the police officer they say was the officer that shot michael brown. the police are refusing to do that but now they've lost control of the situation. >> you know, the problem, carol, is that people certainly have the right to peacefully protest and obviously the teng tension enflamed and there's a feeling of gross injustice that occurred. i understand the facts are developing. we don't know them all but from the witnesses that have come forward it is troubling and it is disturbing in terms of the
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police conduct, and so if people are out there, and they are voicing their concerns, we're a country that's founded upon the first amendment, that's founded upon freedoms, that's founded upon people expressing their views and if they can do that in a peaceful way i'm not sure that i see the necessity for tear gas and rubber bullets or anything else. in the event that people, limited people are protesting in a way that is negative, and it's going away from the general peace, the police need to isolate those people and perhaps respond to them as opposed to firing upon the crowd in general. >> and carol, also -- >> and mike, and arresting reporters who were sitting at mcdonald's, taking notes for their stories? >> no, no. that was totally -- i watched that over and over and over again. you know, my question is, look, i was with the d.c. police department probably worked more demonstrations both violent and non-violent than most police departments in the country, and when i look at this, i'm saying to myself, okay, was there a danger inside that mcdonald's? was there a bomb threat?
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was the mcdonald's open for business? yes. but why did the police come in and ask them to leave? it's up to the manager, the general manager of that establishment to ask them to leave, and you know, and then you heard one of the reporters say that he was handcuffed for 15 minutes standing outside. so where was the danger? i want to know what department these officers were from, and if an officer, if i ask an officer what is your name and badge number, that officer better give it to me. >> that's right, and the reporters aren't getting that information. >> no, they're not. >> we're getting very little information from the police. i want to continue this conversation. mike and joey stay with me. in the midst of the violence another key question remains, what happened that day? slowly more witnesses are coming forward. the latest tiffany mitchell, who saw what unfolded between that officer and michael brown.
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>> i saw the officer pulling him in and trying to get away. i pulled it on my phone because it didn't look right. it didn't look right for somebody to be wrestling through the police window. i didn't get the video because a shot was fired through the window so i tried to get out of the way so i pulled onto the side. the kid finally gets away and starts running, as he runs, the police get out of his vehicle and he follows behind him shooting and the kid body jerked as if he was hit from behind, and he turned around and puts his hands up like this, and the cop continued to fire until he just dropped down so the ground, and his face just smacks the concrete. >> okay, so if tiffany's account is true, mike brooks, is it proper protocol to chase down and shoot a man if he's running away in a neighborhood? >> unless that officer for some reason thought that his life was
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in danger, but again, if he thought, he didn't see a weapon and i tell you, listening to tiffany mitchell, we've heard a lot of witness accounts so far, this, i'm looking at her, looking at her body language, she is extremely credible and believable to me, carol, so again we don't know the whole story. we'll peel the layers back on the onion to find out what really happened. >> check, one, two, three, so i know you're still there. all right, mike brooks' shot has gone down. we'll try get him back up. let's go to joey jackson and ask you the question. we also know that police officers are human beings and if you think your life is in danger and you fire off one shot, your adrenalin is going and maybe do you shoot multiple times. i don't know. >> not an excuse. not an excuse at all. i've been on the prosecutor side where i was a prosecutor in man
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that the an, on the defense side. police are human beings, we respect them and trust them we think they are there to protect and preserve and for the most part they do but this conduct is imexcusable. lethal force is the final alternative, not the last alternative, not the first option. second carle o, the proportional threat, the force you use has to be proportionate to the threat posed. if you're in a defensive position as a person breaking away, attempting to go, where is the threat? where is the eminent danger to your life, such that you have to -- somebody else's and so finally if it there is eminent danger, where is it, explain how and in the event that there is no eminent danger at all, why are you shooting your gun, so again the facts will continue to unfold, but as these witnesses point them out, carol, it certainly does not look that this was justified at this point from what we know. >> joey jackson, mike brooks stick around.
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pleas for calmen in ferguson, missouri, this morning, as we all search for answers. cnn obtained the first police dispatch in st. louis county where ferguson is located from the day of the shooting. let me explain to you what you're about to hear. while this is happening on saturday, county police dispatchers talked with police officers on the scene. you're about to hear the dispatcher talking. you cannot hear the police officers asking the questions. there are hours and hours of this conversation. we edited it all down for to you illustrate the chaos that day.
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let's bring back in hln law enforcement analyst mike brooks and defense attorney joey jackson and retired army general russel honorare. this audio gives a taste of what was happening that day. it seems disorganized to me. was it? >> you know, it does. we're not hearing the dispatcher from ferguson police. we're hearing the st. louis county, but usually st. louis county will also monitor other small departments within their county to see what's going on, but for the dispatcher from st. louis county to say that ferguson is unaware of what's going on, it does sound very confusing, but then it sounds like they start to get their act together, because they start asking for mutual aid assistance, and that's when she had everybody switch over to that mutual aid frequency what, they call riot a adam so
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everyone can communicate from the responding departments to assist ferguson. >> general, i remember when you took the national guard to new orleans and they got things calmed down, when you see police firing rubber bullets and firing tear gas canisters into people's homes is that the right way to handle things? >> it looked like it may have escalated the situation. people starting to think non-lethal weapons are non-lletl they are not. they have a traumatic effect on people. i had years of training with south korea, some experience in the united states and getting the police to put their guns down as you remember from katrina, but i think they went non-lethal quick. you're in trouble when your s.w.a.t. team is on the front line of dealing with a civil disturbance. they are starting to treat the citizens like the enemy.
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they should be there to protect the people but when you put s.w.a.t. up front, they have a specific mission that they're trained for. i've seen this done successfully in the past where you have your front line policemen on the front, until people start throwing things, then you have your riot control squads in the back. the tactics they are using i don't know where they learned them from. it appear they may be making them up on the way but this is escalating the situation, and the use of non-lethal weapons you can escalate the situation as we've seen in the last two nights. >> car roll, when you it shall -- >> hold on, i want to ask the general the question, i went to new orleans when you were there, general and one of your guys pointed a gun at the crowd and you yelled at him "do not point your weapon. put it down!" i was impressed by that, and kind of taken aback at the same time. >> yes, any time we have policemen pointing weapons at american citizens, they need to go through retraining, and i
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think we are about 24 hours too late that the governor should have stood in here and brought in the state police and pulled that police force off the line. they are going to have a hard time reestablishing credibility to protect and serve on those streets after this type of infraction has occurred. that is why the governor i think should come in with the state police, not national guard, state police. >> here, here. >> and take this situation over and get the politics to work, because politics fail and pr has failed and police tactics is failing. >> that's another thing, mike brooks. why aren't police holding two press conferences a day, just to tell people, you know, we're investigating, we're on your side, here's what we're doing but they're not doing that. i don't understand. >> no, i saw one yesterday and that was about all by ferguson police chief tom jackson. we're talking about general honorare is talking about the tactics of police there. the state police are there and the problem is, in this area i
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was with a large metropolitan police department in washington, d.c. we had officers specifically trained to handle things like that, and we also had our emergency response team which i was a member of which was our s.w.a.t. team. when you get small departments like this, that don't have the resources and don't have the officers who were trained to be on the front lines of a civil disturbance type unit, you get your tactical units in there and that's what they're trained to do so they're playing a dual role which sometimes is not the best. >> joe -- aahead. >> it runs deeper thatten that. it's seemingly a major disconnect between the community and the police, and the fact is that there's distrust that we see that's not there. there are tensions already high that are being escalated. i get the fact you have to maintain crowd control, carol, but if the crowd is posing no danger and the crowd is voicing frustration and the crowd is
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peacefully assembled, exercising their right under the first amendment to express their disclosure, what's the issue? what's the need for tear gas? what's the need for rubber bullets? what's the need to escalate and hide in something that is already explosive, and so i think the tactic needs to be reexamined and to your initial point, carol, i think everyone needs to be informed. speak to the public. this is what we're doing, we're repairing relations, we're healing the community, we're looking into this situation. we're getting answers as opposed to attacking and fighting with the public. what is that doing but making matters worse? >> and carol, that's why i'm glad that the u.s. department of justice, their community relations service are there on the ground. as basically as observers to see what's going on with law enforcement and to make suggestions on how to make it better. so i hope that they are in every meeting every day with all the command and control supervisors and chiefs there on the ground to say okay, folks, here's what we got, because you've ghoetz folks throughout, it was created
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for situations like this, and i've seen them have great success in other cities where there have been civil disobedience. >> joey jackson, mike brooks, general russell honore, thank you. outrage and unrest in ferguson, missouri. questions are growing about the state's governor and his response so far. we'll talk to an attorney who says the governor has been missing in action. (son) oh no...
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good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. major shift taking place concerning the thousands of refugees who are trapped on iraq's mt. sinjar by isis fighters. u.s. officials say last night's air drop of food and water on the mountaintop could be the last one and a rescue mission now seems much less likely. that's because there are far fewer yazidis on the mountain than previously thought. but there is still an
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overwhelming need to shelter the refugees who are returning. cnn's anna coren has the story from the iraqi/syria border. good morning. >> reporter: hi, carol. that's exactly right. there is a humanitarian crisis unfolding here in northern iraq, as thousands of yazidis come from mt. sinjar fleeing the slaughter from isis militants. they are here at this refugee camp and the camp as it is, is not able to accommodate everybody, so makeshift shelter has been erected, plastic, cardboard, whatever they can possibly get whilst the u.n. builds this tent city behind me. families already starting to move in. they haven't been registered which is the normal process with u.n. hcr but the families don't care, they want out of the blazing heat, want some shelter and some roots. these families have lost absolutely everything, carol,
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and the u.n. has described this as a catastrophe, going so far as to issue its highest emergency. let's have a listen to what the u.n. hcr spokesperson, ned cole, had to say. >> this is a catastrophe no, question. people are continuing to come into the northern kurdistan region of iraq, moving around once they get them. to be blunt we don't have housing for all of them, we don't have shelter. we're working on that, thousands of tents are being erected as we speak an extension of a camp is going up. we will have eight camps operating with the kurdistan regional government's support and leadership on this. >> reporter: all right, we lost anna coren's shot from the iraqi/syria border. as you can see more aid is coming into the refugee camps and that's a good thing. there was much criticism against the united nations for not providing enough relevel. we'll take you back to iraq in
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the next hour of "newsroom." missing in action, that's how missouri state senator maria chappell nidal describes jay nixon and his response to the shooting death of the unarmed teenager michael brown. here she is holding up a giant image of the democratic governor's head with "m.i.a." on his head. can we see that image? we'll see that image shortly. for his part the governor announced late last night he is canceling a planned trip today to the state fair and will make his second visit to ferguson as he urges police to "respect the rights of citizens and the press." senator nadal joins me now. >> thank you for having me this morning. >> thank you for being here. we finally did see that picture of the governor's head, priceless in its imagery. this is the governor's second
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trip or it will be today. what else do you think he should be doing? >> well, actually, the governor has never attended ground zero. he's never been on the grounds with these young people who are absolutely hurt and angry, in fact, when he was here the other evening, he was in florecette, not ferguson and only here for about five minutes and left so he didn't listen to the concerns of his citizenry, but the governor has been absent when it comes to minority communities and the state of missouri, not only for a few years, but for a few decades in his service to the missourians, and the people who i represent. >> so what do you want the governor to say today when he visits? >> the governor needs to roll up his sleeves and needs to go to ground zero. he needs to listen to these young people and their frustration. we have been protesting now for four days. today is number five or six, and
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he's not shown up. he's not listened to any of the concerns of young people and they're frustrated and they're mad. they've been harassed and they've been intimidated by authority, and we, frankly, believe not only has st. louis county police officers but also the missouri highway patrol, we believe they have used excessive force, and for that reason, we want to expand the investigation, have the department of justice expand the investigation and to see how protesters have been treated and peaceful demonstrations. >> and i do understand you were tear gassed at a protest on monday during what you call a peaceful protest. you confronted the ferguson police chief about that. let's listen. >> i just wanted to know if i was going to be gassed again like i was on monday night and i was peaceful, and i'm your state senator and i was gassed. and we couldn't get out. and we were peacefully sitting -- i just want to know
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if i'm going to be gassed again. >> i hope not. >> and hopefully you were not, but people are still getting tear gassed, if anything, the situation seems to be escalating. i know you want the u.s. justice department to expand the investigation, but some people are saying maybe they should call in the national guard or something like that. >> well, we definitely need some federal intervention at this point, and i'll say last night, we were gassed again. in fact, the entire world has seen what has happened last night, and you would think that you were in iraq. i was in iraq in 2010, and we were fired upon in iraq in 2010, and nothing that has happened in iraq in the last couple of years looked like what happened last night, and for that, it's disgusting, and for the governor to be missing in action is absolutely absurd. >> just to calm things down for a while, should authorities institute a curfew, allow people to protest during the day, but
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when night falls, make them go home? would that be a good idea? >> it would be a wonderful idea, but here is the problem. there is uncertainty. i confronted the chief of police yesterday and i asked him if we're going to have a curfew, everyone should know about it, just merely suggesting that everyone go home at night is not mandating that there should be a curfew, so because it is not mandated, people are staying out and protesting peacefully all night long, and when night comes, the police start firing, and we couldn't breathe last night. we couldn't breathe on tuesday night. we couldn't breathe on monday night, and we just want to know if it we're going to protest, what time of day can we protest in peace without being fired upon? >> missouri state senator maria chapelle-nadal, thank you for joining me this morning, i appreciate it. >> thank you. still to come in "the newsroom" the online activist
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group anonymous announces a "day of rage." after the break we'll also tell you about anonymous' decision to release what they say is the name of the officer who shot michael brown. i'll be right back.
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the online vigilante group anonymous is calling for a national day of rage today and they're doing it in a most inflammatory way. anonymous has a video posted online showing michael brown's uncovered body lying in the street. of course we're not going to show you that, but we can show you this. >> we are anonymous. we are legion. we do not forgive. we do not forget. ferguson, expect us. >> anonymous also says it has the name of the officer involved, and is threatening to release actually it's already released that name online. we have not confirmed it so we're not talking about exactly what name that anonymous is releasing, but let's talk about anonymous and what exactly it can do with cnn money tech
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reporter laurie segall. you've been in anonymous chat rooms all morning long. >> i've been speaking to folks. these guys call themselves hacktivists. they see injustice and until justice prevails hack and protest replace it. oftentimes you see them going in and releasing sensitive data. they'll be performing attacks on people's e-mails and that kind of thing and in this case that's what they're doing. i spoke with a member of anonymous and asked him about releasing this name and how he felt about it and what he said is this is the beginning. we also have his picture, we have documents and what they're waiting on is for the police department to respond to these allegations, otherwise, and you can follow them on twitter, they're threatening at certain times to release more and more information, carol. >> so the police say they're not releasing the name because of death threats, not only against the officer but against his family. does anonymous take that into account? >> they do. at one point they released the information of the police department officer, the sergeant involved and they said he was
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getting lots of threats and they scaled back a little bit on that, but these guys are vigilantes to a degree and they believe if justice is not served they will react with hacking. i actually want to play you some sound exactly describing what their mission is and what they're threatening to do. listen to this. >> to the citizens of the united states, we are anonymous. little over 48 hours ago in ferguson, missouri, the ferguson police department was involved in a shooting of an unarmed teenager. mike brown was shot six times in cold blood and was left to die. his body lay in a pool of blood in the sweltering heat for hours, while the police militarized the area against protesters and attempted to justify the killing with a reasonable story as to why they snatched this innocent student's life for no reason. >> you know -- >> to me that's incredibly inflammatory because we don't know the other side of the story. >> they say listen, if the police department isn't going to release this information, if they're going to be protective and they're watching closely how
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the police officers are treating protesters, even journalists, in these anonymous chat rooms they're talking about how the police are treating journalists as well and you know, one of them said to me, riddle me this, we pay the police force, they are our employees, why can't we force them to be accountable to us? obviously always two sides of a story but these guys are reacting via the internet, via hacking and exposing very sensitive information that obviously we have to independently confirm before we can put it out there. >> laurie segall, thanks so much. still to come in "the newsroom" -- >> i'm working on it. >> stop videotaping. grab the stuff and go. hurry up, let's go. >> please don't point your gun at hee. >> let's go. >> the police crack down on violence in ferguson takes on a new twist. police detain two journalists charging their batteries at a mcdonald's and a tv camera crew gets tear gassed. i'll talk about this with our media correspondent in just a few minutes.
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. journalists covering the violence in ferguson, missouri, became part of the story last night. i have some video i would like you to take a look at. it was taken at a mcdonald's in ferguson. reporters were there recharging their phone batteries when police burst in. here's the video captured by "washington post" reporter wesley lowery. >> stop videoing and grab our
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stuff and go. >> hurry up and go. >> please don't -- >> let's go. >> you see me working? please do not tell me not to use my -- >> time to go. we're down to about 45 seconds. let's go. >> all right. so reporters lowry and another reporter from "the huffington post" named ryan reilly were taken into custody, they were handcuffed and detained. both say they were aggressively handled. i want to bring in cnn's senior media correspondent and host of "reliable sources" brian stelter to talk about this along with mike brooks, hln law enforcement analyst. mike, as you were seeing video of this, was this proper police procedure? >> absolutely not. i looked at this and having been with a can -- a police officer for over 26 years and the emergency response team in washington for a long, long time, no, this was not proper at all. number one, when is the police now in charge of closing down restaurants?
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was there a threat to this restaurant in were these reporters in danger? to. it seems that they were not. the manager should have asked them to leave if they were going to decide to shut down that restaurant for public safety reasons. but they were not. and to just -- flex cuff somebody and take them outside and stand outside the restaurant for 15 minutes after they were arrested is not proper procedure and then they were taken to the station, carol, and all of a sudden unarrested. you just can't unarrest somebody. that opens up this department to false arrest, false imprisonment civil charges. i'm telling you that is not the proper procedure at all. >> you talked to wesley, what did he tell you? >> he said it if felt like it was unnecessary what happened to them and he said he wanted it to be about the protesters, he doesn't want to be the story but feels his arrest and ryan reilly's arrest were an anecdote about what protesters have experienced. there were 18 arrests reported last night two of them were journalists. ifs this happened to these two
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journalists and this seems ab surred you have to it tell about the other 16. >> i want to tell our viewers about the al jazeera reporters. this is pictures of the police force guns drawn firing tear gas to disperse a crowd. landed near a tv news camera. this kind of thing can happen, though, mike in breaking news situations. you just sort of get in the way. so is this different from what happened inside the mcdonald's in. >> yeah, a little bit, i think, carol. number one, were there protesters there, where their position was set up. number two, the lights. were they giving away the law enforcement's position. law enforcement comes over and tells them hey, guys, can you turn your lights off, you're illuminating us to the crowd possible threat. but then to have the officers come in and mess with the cameras and mess with the lights, that's improper. that's should not have happen. >> that would have made me very angry as a journalist.
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al jazeera did respond. >> put out a very strong statement they say not only was that tear gas aimed in their direction but also rubber bullets and even after they yelled press more rubber bullets were fired. al jazeera america is stunned by this egregious assault on freedom of the press intended to have a chilling effect on our ability to cover this important story. those are strong words saying this was intended to have a chilling effect. we heard that from "the huffington post" about their reporter arrested. although these are two different cases, it does contribute to a sense that there's been an escalation in tensions between the press and the police there. >> a lot to talk about on your show, right, this weekend. >> and hopefully we'll talk to these reporters, yeah. >> brian stelter, mike brook, thank you so much. in the next hour, one of the two reporters, trying to get things to work here today, anyway, we'll talk to unwith of the reporters from "the huffington post" in the next hour of "cnn newsroom." i have to take a quick break and be back with much more.
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